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Another "be careful or you might catch the gay!" situation. in Canada. :|

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Quote from: LinkXLR on January 10, 2008, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 10, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 09, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hero_Of_Time on January 09, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Ok...excuse me? Catch the gay? Like sexuality can be transferred? Uh..no. I'm sorry, that doesn't work. Sexuality is GENETIC. It cannot be transferred. -_-
I feel like I should say something, but I'm afraid I'll piss people off, so I'm putting in a spoiler.
[spoiler]Being homosexual or bisexual is NOT genetic. It's a choice that people choose to  make. In my eyes, it's a dumb and stupid choice, because it goes against the bible. (Man shall not sleep next to man) And many gay men have become straight, as well as vise versa. I beg of any memebers who are gay to think, "Did I choose this? Or did I force myself into believing it?" [/spoiler]

Please do not become angry for my 2 cents.

Ahhh yes, I've read this same comment over and over within my life time on this earth so many times...I lost count.

I respect your Opinion, but at the very least, I think those who can "walk in a gay man's shoes" would have more
right to say something like this then Anybody else. Or maybe a bisexual person "male or female".

Who cares what you do with your life, as long as your happy.

If you don't do do bad things to yourself or other people, if you want good things to happen to everybody...
If you do whats right for yourself, and for everybody, from within your heart of hearts...

If you try to be happy and be one with God, and believe in Jesus Christ...
If your morals are good and pure, for the better of humanity...
To try to help everybody who's in need, to be strong, loyal and faithful to God,
wouldn't that be more important then basing what the Bible may say?

THIS is what I feel, these are my morals (in a less typed formed).

For over 18 years out of 25 years of my life I felt this way... and I still do.

As I said in a thread about myself a month ago,

I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ, I was Baptized, I say my prayers every single night,
I say my blessings before Every single meal...... (Including cereal, and even microwaved cookies).
I am a forever and ever follower of God and what ever he would want me to do, what ever he would help me to realize
I would do, No questions asked.

Cause after all, God loves everybody, even our sins.......soooooooooooooooooooooooooo whats the problem?

I don't do HALF the bad things people around my age (and younger have done), cause I feel thats not the right way at all.


I like to believe that I was put on this earth to help "OPEN PEOPLES MINDS" to accept and lover everybody, regardless of
color/race/sexuality or anything others may find some kind of stupid fault against.

So regardless of what another person may do in there personal life, don't judge them, don't hate them, don't use them, don't despite them...

cause all people like me who have been put down........ looked down upon, all we want is

"Acceptance"....
Whether being gay is a choice or not, is Not important, it's just how we feel/want to be...maybe because we are "fated"...we are all after all
Made in Gods eyes...we are all his children.




-So Sayeth the Wizard
I don't blame you for saying the things you have said. And there IS truth in them. GOD loves us all, even the homosexual, and the mexicans. (JUST JOKING, don't get all mad off. :P)

However, GOD strongly dislikes homosexuals. Same as he hates all sins. But, I know that just because someone is gay, doesn't mean their condemned to hell. After all, my grandfather was gay. But he believed in GOD, and was baptized and all that stuff. I believe that GOD wouldn't send someone like him to hell. Homosexual or not. Now, I know what most people think, "Why should I listen to you? You're just another creepy guy online who looks at pr0n!" First of all, no I don't. Second, I'm not a pansy. (Porn's gross.  :-X) I understand that you guys are most likely happy with your lives, and if you're happy, stay that way. Just please, spend one day in a Christian church. I beg ya. Just listen to a sermon (don't fall asleep like me.  :P) Just, try and see what I see.

That's my pennies and nickels.....wait, what?

"God hates all gays"... "hate" in general is such a strong word...
And who are you to say what God hates and loves...
I mean, he loves his children, but he hates gays..
hm................

I don't know what to think...

LETS Just wait until the end...
A person can spend all there days in church as a Christian, but if they are gay, then...
thats not really gonna change there lifestyle... it's really there choice...
and end the end...
God will judge us all.

Humans shouldn't be the ones to judge.

I been to many churches actually...
some are more interesting then others yes...
>_>
But my views/morals remain the same.

Well, "Live and Let Live" is all.
   

Pokesamrus

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 10, 2008, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 10, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 09, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hero_Of_Time on January 09, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Ok...excuse me? Catch the gay? Like sexuality can be transferred? Uh..no. I'm sorry, that doesn't work. Sexuality is GENETIC. It cannot be transferred. -_-
I feel like I should say something, but I'm afraid I'll piss people off, so I'm putting in a spoiler.
[spoiler]Being homosexual or bisexual is NOT genetic. It's a choice that people choose to  make. In my eyes, it's a dumb and stupid choice, because it goes against the bible. (Man shall not sleep next to man) And many gay men have become straight, as well as vise versa. I beg of any memebers who are gay to think, "Did I choose this? Or did I force myself into believing it?" [/spoiler]

Please do not become angry for my 2 cents.

Ahhh yes, I've read this same comment over and over within my life time on this earth so many times...I lost count.

I respect your Opinion, but at the very least, I think those who can "walk in a gay man's shoes" would have more
right to say something like this then Anybody else. Or maybe a bisexual person "male or female".

Who cares what you do with your life, as long as your happy.

If you don't do do bad things to yourself or other people, if you want good things to happen to everybody...
If you do whats right for yourself, and for everybody, from within your heart of hearts...

If you try to be happy and be one with God, and believe in Jesus Christ...
If your morals are good and pure, for the better of humanity...
To try to help everybody who's in need, to be strong, loyal and faithful to God,
wouldn't that be more important then basing what the Bible may say?

THIS is what I feel, these are my morals (in a less typed formed).

For over 18 years out of 25 years of my life I felt this way... and I still do.

As I said in a thread about myself a month ago,

I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ, I was Baptized, I say my prayers every single night,
I say my blessings before Every single meal...... (Including cereal, and even microwaved cookies).
I am a forever and ever follower of God and what ever he would want me to do, what ever he would help me to realize
I would do, No questions asked.

Cause after all, God loves everybody, even our sins.......soooooooooooooooooooooooooo whats the problem?

I don't do HALF the bad things people around my age (and younger have done), cause I feel thats not the right way at all.


I like to believe that I was put on this earth to help "OPEN PEOPLES MINDS" to accept and lover everybody, regardless of
color/race/sexuality or anything others may find some kind of stupid fault against.

So regardless of what another person may do in there personal life, don't judge them, don't hate them, don't use them, don't despite them...

cause all people like me who have been put down........ looked down upon, all we want is

"Acceptance"....
Whether being gay is a choice or not, is Not important, it's just how we feel/want to be...maybe because we are "fated"...we are all after all
Made in Gods eyes...we are all his children.




-So Sayeth the Wizard
I don't blame you for saying the things you have said. And there IS truth in them. GOD loves us all, even the homosexual, and the mexicans. (JUST JOKING, don't get all mad off. :P)

However, GOD strongly dislikes homosexuals. Same as he hates all sins. But, I know that just because someone is gay, doesn't mean their condemned to hell. After all, my grandfather was gay. But he believed in GOD, and was baptized and all that stuff. I believe that GOD wouldn't send someone like him to hell. Homosexual or not. Now, I know what most people think, "Why should I listen to you? You're just another creepy guy online who looks at pr0n!" First of all, no I don't. Second, I'm not a pansy. (Porn's gross.  :-X) I understand that you guys are most likely happy with your lives, and if you're happy, stay that way. Just please, spend one day in a Christian church. I beg ya. Just listen to a sermon (don't fall asleep like me.  :P) Just, try and see what I see.

That's my pennies and nickels.....wait, what?
omg. this god guy probably doesn't hate gays, you're just listening to what some discriminatory white guy said that spread around to all those "i believe with thinking or being skeptical of what im being teached christians, like 99% of all christians IMO"

I spent days at christian churches, whenever my family wants me to (rarely) or when me friends want me too (less rarely but i dont always accept), heard their poop, gave it chances to convince me, i tried to think like a christian and if you think outside the box you might be skeptical too.

IMO christian and most of the poop it teaches is, well, full of poop. anti-gays, anti-abortion, anti-porn, anti-lust, anti-this, anti-that because some regular humans are believing a dream, or just playing a major prank, and making everyone believe it was a supernatural occurrence and foretelling.

Idk, just all seems like poop IMO.

Tahrann

Quote from: Lotos on January 09, 2008, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: TheAnonymusElmo on January 09, 2008, 07:48:38 PM
Good, Canada is taking some Christian initiative.

>_>

I can understand that they're probably concerned about that AIDS that gay people could catch and pass on, but isn't they're tests for STDs and other crap like that?  Maybe it's because if people found out they got an organ from a homosexual, they'd be mad, grossed out, etc.

I believe that the person should have their blood tested before they donate. But other than that, they should feel free to donate.
Puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again!

LinkXLR

Quote from: Pokesamrus on January 10, 2008, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 10, 2008, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 10, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 09, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Hero_Of_Time on January 09, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Ok...excuse me? Catch the gay? Like sexuality can be transferred? Uh..no. I'm sorry, that doesn't work. Sexuality is GENETIC. It cannot be transferred. -_-
I feel like I should say something, but I'm afraid I'll piss people off, so I'm putting in a spoiler.
[spoiler]Being homosexual or bisexual is NOT genetic. It's a choice that people choose to  make. In my eyes, it's a dumb and stupid choice, because it goes against the bible. (Man shall not sleep next to man) And many gay men have become straight, as well as vise versa. I beg of any memebers who are gay to think, "Did I choose this? Or did I force myself into believing it?" [/spoiler]

Please do not become angry for my 2 cents.

Ahhh yes, I've read this same comment over and over within my life time on this earth so many times...I lost count.

I respect your Opinion, but at the very least, I think those who can "walk in a gay man's shoes" would have more
right to say something like this then Anybody else. Or maybe a bisexual person "male or female".

Who cares what you do with your life, as long as your happy.

If you don't do do bad things to yourself or other people, if you want good things to happen to everybody...
If you do whats right for yourself, and for everybody, from within your heart of hearts...

If you try to be happy and be one with God, and believe in Jesus Christ...
If your morals are good and pure, for the better of humanity...
To try to help everybody who's in need, to be strong, loyal and faithful to God,
wouldn't that be more important then basing what the Bible may say?

THIS is what I feel, these are my morals (in a less typed formed).

For over 18 years out of 25 years of my life I felt this way... and I still do.

As I said in a thread about myself a month ago,

I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ, I was Baptized, I say my prayers every single night,
I say my blessings before Every single meal...... (Including cereal, and even microwaved cookies).
I am a forever and ever follower of God and what ever he would want me to do, what ever he would help me to realize
I would do, No questions asked.

Cause after all, God loves everybody, even our sins.......soooooooooooooooooooooooooo whats the problem?

I don't do HALF the bad things people around my age (and younger have done), cause I feel thats not the right way at all.


I like to believe that I was put on this earth to help "OPEN PEOPLES MINDS" to accept and lover everybody, regardless of
color/race/sexuality or anything others may find some kind of stupid fault against.

So regardless of what another person may do in there personal life, don't judge them, don't hate them, don't use them, don't despite them...

cause all people like me who have been put down........ looked down upon, all we want is

"Acceptance"....
Whether being gay is a choice or not, is Not important, it's just how we feel/want to be...maybe because we are "fated"...we are all after all
Made in Gods eyes...we are all his children.




-So Sayeth the Wizard
I don't blame you for saying the things you have said. And there IS truth in them. GOD loves us all, even the homosexual, and the mexicans. (JUST JOKING, don't get all mad off. :P)

However, GOD strongly dislikes homosexuals. Same as he hates all sins. But, I know that just because someone is gay, doesn't mean their condemned to hell. After all, my grandfather was gay. But he believed in GOD, and was baptized and all that stuff. I believe that GOD wouldn't send someone like him to hell. Homosexual or not. Now, I know what most people think, "Why should I listen to you? You're just another creepy guy online who looks at pr0n!" First of all, no I don't. Second, I'm not a pansy. (Porn's gross.  :-X) I understand that you guys are most likely happy with your lives, and if you're happy, stay that way. Just please, spend one day in a Christian church. I beg ya. Just listen to a sermon (don't fall asleep like me.  :P) Just, try and see what I see.

That's my pennies and nickels.....wait, what?
omg. this god guy probably doesn't hate gays, you're just listening to what some discriminatory white guy said that spread around to all those "i believe with thinking or being skeptical of what im being teached christians, like 99% of all christians IMO"

I spent days at christian churches, whenever my family wants me to (rarely) or when me friends want me too (less rarely but i dont always accept), heard their s***, gave it chances to convince me, i tried to think like a christian and if you think outside the box you might be skeptical too.

IMO christian and most of the s*** it teaches is, well, full of s***. anti-gays, anti-abortion, anti-porn, anti-lust, anti-this, anti-that because some regular humans are believing a dream, or just playing a major prank, and making everyone believe it was a supernatural occurrence and foretelling.

Idk, just all seems like s*** IMO.
@Starwindwizard and this guy:
Did I ever say GOD hated gays? I said he DISLIKED their actions and thoughts. Totally different.

Don't EVER say that I'm listening to to an over religious priest. I'm not like that. And if your going to trash talk a religion in front of a followers face, do it on your own time. Leave me out of it.

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why would god intentionally create people that he dislikes?  Things like this are what make me skeptical, you know.  Why should christianity be any more right than other religions?  The crusades?  Mass murder.  Would a merciful god want that to happen?  Does he adopt the "conform to my ideals or die" perspective?  because that's what the crusades were.  They were to love their neighbors as themselves, but for some reason their killing of others in the "holy lands" was justified because their views on a higher power were different?

I don't get it.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

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Tahrann

Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
why would god intentionally create people that he dislikes?  Things like this are what make me skeptical, you know.  Why should christianity be any more right than other religions?  The crusades?  Mass murder.  Would a merciful god want that to happen?  Does he adopt the "conform to my ideals or die" perspective?  because that's what the crusades were.  They were to love their neighbors as themselves, but for some reason their killing of others in the "holy lands" was justified because their views on a higher power were different?

I don't get it.

It says love your neighbors, unfortunently people don't want to do that anymore.
Puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again!

Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
why would god intentionally create people that he dislikes?  Things like this are what make me skeptical, you know.  Why should christianity be any more right than other religions?  The crusades?  Mass murder.  Would a merciful god want that to happen?  Does he adopt the "conform to my ideals or die" perspective?  because that's what the crusades were.  They were to love their neighbors as themselves, but for some reason their killing of others in the "holy lands" was justified because their views on a higher power were different?

I don't get it.
I thought that the Christians knights in the crusades were trying to take back Jerusalem from the Muslim invaders.
I'm not saying that I condone their actions, but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and were originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia.
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Syncopathic

Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on January 10, 2008, 08:39:06 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
why would god intentionally create people that he dislikes?  Things like this are what make me skeptical, you know.  Why should christianity be any more right than other religions?  The crusades?  Mass murder.  Would a merciful god want that to happen?  Does he adopt the "conform to my ideals or die" perspective?  because that's what the crusades were.  They were to love their neighbors as themselves, but for some reason their killing of others in the "holy lands" was justified because their views on a higher power were different?

I don't get it.
I thought that the Christians knights in the crusades were trying to take back Jerusalem from the Muslim invaders.
I'm not saying that I condone their actions, but...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule and were originally launched in response to a call from the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire for help against the expansion of the Muslim Seljuk Turks into Anatolia.
In the end, it turned into a Jewish massacre....

Jono2

yes, that was the point of the crusades.  but the thing is, though they did end up getting it, they never held it for long, and I don't see why they couldn't have just settled it peacefully.

as the christians they said they were, shouldn't they have made a deal with the muslims to be able to send in missionaries, or even less so, worship groups?  they didn't need to go and crusade to get the lands "back", because it really wasn't theirs in the first place.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

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StarWindWizard7

ok,

"Strongly Dislikes" and "hates",
might not BE the same thing......

But whats the difference?  ::)


I mean.............

I don't get it...

Why create something you "Strongly dislike".

*begins to stutter* words are starting to fail me now...

As I said, people like me may be put on this earth to help other people "Accept" those/things that are different.
   

Hiei

Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:02:21 PM
I believe that the person should have their blood tested before they donate. But other than that, they should feel free to donate.

Your blood is tested before they give it to anyone, which makes this discrimination utterly pointless. I give blood, and I fully expect them to thoroughly test it for disease and defect. 

Quote
Don't EVER say that I'm listening to to an over religious priest. I'm not like that. And if your going to trash talk a religion in front of a followers face, do it on your own time. Leave me out of it.

Fine then. Leave your religion out of the discussion, and it won't be trash talked.

StarWindWizard7

Quote from: Hiei on January 10, 2008, 09:04:35 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:02:21 PM
I believe that the person should have their blood tested before they donate. But other than that, they should feel free to donate.

Your blood is tested before they give it to anyone, which makes this discrimination utterly pointless. I give blood, and I fully expect them to thoroughly test it for disease and defect. 

Quote
Don't EVER say that I'm listening to to an over religious priest. I'm not like that. And if your going to trash talk a religion in front of a followers face, do it on your own time. Leave me out of it.

Fine then. Leave your religion out of the discussion, and it won't be trash talked.
And I thank you very much.
   

Tahrann

Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 10, 2008, 09:03:16 PM
ok,

"Strongly Dislikes" and "hates",
might not BE the same thing......

But whats the difference?  ::)


I mean.............

I don't get it...

Why create something you "Strongly dislike".

*begins to stutter* words are starting to fail me now...

As I said, people like me may be put on this earth to help other people "Accept" those/things that are different.

Your a very nice different person. I find you as one of the best MODs on NS.

I don't think God hates the person, just the lifestyle choice, but never the person.
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