Analyze This! (Version II)

[Timmy0591]

Pikachu has somewhat reclaimed his status as god tier like he was in 64. He has some good repeating attacks and his Down Smash got a big buff. His Thunder can be used as a wall against people trying to recover. Overall good character, but most users don't use more than his Dsmash and Thunder.

[Ugawa]

Alright, next up is Marth!

Marth is somewhere between decent and good in my eyes.  His recovery is pretty much entirely vertical, which doesn't help in certain situations that seem to pop up every time I use him X_x.  He can gain some horizontal with his side-B, but it's minimal in this game.

Speaking of his side-B, one of my favorite attacks because you can change it around so much.  I won't be repetitive, as there is a thread on this already, but it's one of his better attacks.

Although his reach seems to be shorter than in Melee, having a sword still doesn't hurt, and he can combo in the air really well.  Also, his side smash is pretty quick and can launch an opponent far if done right.

His up smash is another story.  It's terribly hard to land a good hit, so I tend to stay away from it when I use Marth.  His down smash is excellent.  It's quick, powerful, and eventually covers his front and back.  Also, his tilts are good for ground combos (as well as his side-special).

His counter is decent.  It doesn't kill nearly as much as a Lucario counter, but a counter is always useful for a backup move.  The skilled player should use this sparingly but well.

What do you think about Marth?

[Timmy0591]

Marth is worse in Brawl than he was in Melee, thats a given. Hes in the same wagon with Fox. Honestly, I don't consider Marth to be that "skillful" to use. He is relatively fast, has good range (Practically if you go for his sweet spot at the tip of his sword your too far away to be hit) and has some good killing moves. Although most Marths just whore Fair Fair Fsmash, which is probably the worst combo i've ever seen in Brawl. Its very conditional depending on the % of the attackee.

Hes not terrible, but its just like playing a MK, only on a much lesser extent. Your basically playing on Auto-Pilot when you play them. It doesn't take alot of skill.

[Ridley]

Is this still going on? I really want to see you get up to Rob and King dedede.

[Timmy0591]

King DDD is Top tier, he even gives Snake trouble (Considering his Ftilt dominates his explosives and nades) and DDD can wack anyone around and keep them off the stage as long as they want with Fair or Bair, and sometimes Nair. Hes got the sweet chaingrab which is some what difficult to escape from. One of the strongest Fsmashes in the game (If you sweet spot). His Usmash and Dsmash cover his entire body which makes it an excelent defensive tool against Dodgerollers.

R.O.B is upper tier material. I don't really like R.O.B. So im not going to cover him.

[Ridley]

King DDD is Top tier, he even gives Snake trouble (Considering his Ftilt dominates his explosives and nades) and DDD can wack anyone around and keep them off the stage as long as they want with Fair or Bair, and sometimes Nair. Hes got the sweet chaingrab which is some what difficult to escape from. One of the strongest Fsmashes in the game (If you sweet spot). His Usmash and Dsmash cover his entire body which makes it an excelent defensive tool against Dodgerollers.

R.O.B is upper tier material. I don't really like R.O.B. So im not going to cover him.

I personally prefer his up strong attack to his up smash. It comes out faster and is almost as powerful. His back ariel is also the god ariel. The only draw back is that you have to face backwards to you opponent but that is nothing big to a good player.

[Timmy0591]

You mean his Utilt? Yeah...THats a good killing move, so I don't use it until I can kill my opponent so the damage/knockback isn't reduced.

My favorite arial of DDD is his Fsmash, just because its cool to get a hammer to the face.

[Ridley]

You mean his Utilt? Yeah...THats a good killing move, so I don't use it until I can kill my opponent so the damage/knockback isn't reduced.

My favorite arial of DDD is his Fsmash, just because its cool to get a hammer to the face.

Well if you can manage to do a grab attack before you down throw for your chain you will be able to recharge your attacks really fast.

[Ugawa]

Haha, looks as though we have a lot of material for ROB, and myself, being a ROB user, have some good words to put in, but for now, we're up to Game and Watch because I've been a lazy butt and haven't been on FCD in a bit.

Game and Watch is weird to face.  His moves have some startup lag because of the frame by frame animation, but he's actually pretty good.  If we're talking tiers, I'd give him upper middle.

His down-B is really good if you actually have the chance to get the bucket full...useful against spammers...it's so good that if a Fox or Pika were spamming and got 2/3 of the bucket full, you can bet they wouldn't use another blaster/thunder thing until GW has been killed due to the monstrosity waiting inside its bucket.  Spamming sausage things with B isn't that bad either, although it won't really force an opponent to approach.  His side-B is random, so it can be good and bad, but I wouldn't overuse it.  His recovery up-B is really good, though.  First, he gains vertical distance, and then he can gain horizontal distance with the parachute...he can even attack out of it too.

Smashes are okay.  Side smash is an awesome killing move, but it does have some startup lag...it's really powerful though.  I don't know much about the other smashes because I don't use GW that much.

What do you think about Game and Watch?...and FCD-ers, be sure to tune into the next character, because that's where we left off before the merge...

[Ridley]

Haha, looks as though we have a lot of material for ROB, and myself, being a ROB user, have some good words to put in, but for now, we're up to Game and Watch because I've been a lazy butt and haven't been on FCD in a bit.

Game and Watch is weird to face.  His moves have some startup lag because of the frame by frame animation, but he's actually pretty good.  If we're talking tiers, I'd give him upper middle.

His down-B is really good if you actually have the chance to get the bucket full...useful against spammers...it's so good that if a Fox or Pika were spamming and got 2/3 of the bucket full, you can bet they wouldn't use another blaster/thunder thing until GW has been killed due to the monstrosity waiting inside its bucket.  Spamming sausage things with B isn't that bad either, although it won't really force an opponent to approach.  His side-B is random, so it can be good and bad, but I wouldn't overuse it.  His recovery up-B is really good, though.  First, he gains vertical distance, and then he can gain horizontal distance with the parachute...he can even attack out of it too.

Smashes are okay.  Side smash is an awesome killing move, but it does have some startup lag...it's really powerful though.  I don't know much about the other smashes because I don't use GW that much.

What do you think about Game and Watch?...and FCD-ers, be sure to tune into the next character, because that's where we left off before the merge...

I am a rob user so I personally would love to help out when you reach him.

[Dawei]

Game and watch is top tier/upper tier (that is above high, but below top for tiers). 1 word; Turtle.

[Chloroform?]

Turtle rapes ALL. That, and GW's down throw to down smash/tilt is all that you need to know about him to make him great. I hate using him though.

[Ridley]

Turtle rapes ALL. That, and GW's down throw to down smash/tilt is all that you need to know about him to make him great. I hate using him though.

Roll dodge to the other side of him and capitilize rapes more.

[Timmy0591]

You won't have enough time to get the inviniciblity frames to do that Ridley.

[Ridley]

You won't have enough time to get the inviniciblity frames to do that Ridley.

Trust me dude. Overswarm does that and it works.