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Title: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: The Riddler on January 22, 2008, 12:19:25 AM
http://brawlcentral.com/
(http://brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_22(1).jpg)
A poster on 2ch supposedly has gotten a hold of the game disc and posted pictures as proof. He also took a picture of what he calls the official starting roster.
(http://brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_22(2).jpg)
The picture was taken from his TV (notice the TV1 text on the top right). Either it's a good fake or it's the real deal! Stay tuned for more updates!

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: DededeCloneChris on January 22, 2008, 12:21:37 AM
.............Oh god.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: La Pared on January 22, 2008, 12:24:37 AM
i remember seeing this on brawlcentral forums. i like the disk.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: GrimTuesday on January 22, 2008, 12:32:37 AM
It looks real enough to me. Especially the fact that Bowser was called Koopa, that is a general sign of a real japanese smash bros.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Dei Enyt on January 22, 2008, 12:41:27 AM
Seems legit enough to me.  I'm no graphic artist, but it'd take a pro to photoshop that onto a TV.

The disc?  It's not the American disc, so I'm indifferent as to the legitimacy of that.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: bluaki on January 22, 2008, 01:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 22, 2008, 12:41:27 AM
Seems legit enough to me.  I'm no graphic artist, but it'd take a pro to photoshop that onto a TV.
Not really. I could do something like that myself.
Make the TV load an image through some kind of input. Edit the picture before, not after, going through the TV.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Neerb on January 22, 2008, 04:37:24 AM
That pic has all the characters announced so far except Snake and Sonic.  If this guy's right, we probably won't get anymore character updates until the game comes out.  :(

But the disc looks cool.  :)
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Joeofmars on January 22, 2008, 04:43:53 AM
It seems legit... but I won't believe anything till- well. You know what I'm gonna say.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Triforceman22 on January 22, 2008, 05:17:13 AM
Man, the disc looks awesome....
I guess Ness, and Falcon were buffed, or have diffrent movesets since they are unlockable....
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Joeofmars on January 22, 2008, 05:20:43 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 22, 2008, 05:17:13 AM
Man, the disc looks awesome....
I guess Ness, and Falcon were buffed, or have diffrent movesets since they are unlockable....

Or they're not in.  :robotangry:
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Neerb on January 22, 2008, 05:24:01 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?

Duh.  I think they would have announced Falcon by now if he wasn't.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Triforceman22 on January 22, 2008, 05:28:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 22, 2008, 05:24:01 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?

Duh.  I think they would have announced Falcon by now if he wasn't.

the reason they havn't announced Falcon yet is because he's using a new look from a new F-Zero game....
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Triforceman22 on January 22, 2008, 05:28:37 AM
Quote from: Joeofmars on January 22, 2008, 05:20:43 AM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 22, 2008, 05:17:13 AM
Man, the disc looks awesome....
I guess Ness, and Falcon were buffed, or have diffrent movesets since they are unlockable....

Or they're not in.  :robotangry:

>:(
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Nayrman on January 22, 2008, 05:33:32 AM
It LOOKS legit, but of course we don't know for sure until release, although I think this may actually be real, since everything Sakurai said is right so far. So either this dude has WAY too much time on his hands, or its real.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Red on January 22, 2008, 06:41:20 AM
I think it's fake. Get one of our wii game cases now. Open it up, compare the things in the center of the disc that is hold it in, the one in the picture is different than any other wii game case. :O
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Ridley on January 22, 2008, 06:47:57 AM
That is truly awsome. I hope the guy who has it (if he has it) unlocks some characters and shows them to us.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Apollo on January 22, 2008, 06:56:32 AM
once again i dont believe everything i see on the internet
itll come out soon and then we will know.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Gwen Khan on January 22, 2008, 09:00:01 AM
if it was real he would have gotten another character by now and posted another pic
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 12:02:34 PM
It's fake.  It has to be.  How can some random guy get hold of the game?
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Ridley on January 22, 2008, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 22, 2008, 09:00:01 AM
if it was real he would have gotten another character by now and posted another pic

Your one to talk finding a video of it.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Gwen Khan on January 22, 2008, 12:29:28 PM
Quote from: Ridley on January 22, 2008, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 22, 2008, 09:00:01 AM
if it was real he would have gotten another character by now and posted another pic

Your one to talk finding a video of it.
that was posted before I posted the video
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: RedSox on January 22, 2008, 06:41:20 AM
I think it's fake. Get one of our wii game cases now. Open it up, compare the things in the center of the disc that is hold it in, the one in the picture is different than any other wii game case. :O
You're right.   :O
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Jono2 on January 22, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
it looks legit except for the fact that in previous smash games the characters from the same series were grouped together.

oops.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Gwen Khan on January 22, 2008, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
it looks legit except for the fact that in previous smash games the characters from the same series were grouped together.

oops.

when you first start Melee, Pikachu is next to Mario, but they move when you get more characters
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Rius on January 22, 2008, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
it looks legit except for the fact that in previous smash games the characters from the same series were grouped together.

oops.
In Melee, they weren't grouped until you unlocked all of the characters. Remember how Pikachu was in between Mario and Peach/Bowser/Donkey Kong (One of those three. >>) The point is, the starting roster wasn't sorted.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 22, 2008, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
it looks legit except for the fact that in previous smash games the characters from the same series were grouped together.

oops.
In Melee, they weren't grouped until you unlocked all of the characters. Remember how Pikachu was in between Mario and Peach/Bowser/Donkey Kong (One of those three. >>) The point is, the starting roster wasn't sorted.
I was thinking the same thing.  Who believes this is real?
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Water ☮ on January 22, 2008, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 22, 2008, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
it looks legit except for the fact that in previous smash games the characters from the same series were grouped together.

oops.
In Melee, they weren't grouped until you unlocked all of the characters. Remember how Pikachu was in between Mario and Peach/Bowser/Donkey Kong (One of those three. >>) The point is, the starting roster wasn't sorted.
I was thinking the same thing.  Who believes this is real?
I do!
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: CrazyGamer on January 22, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
Sonic and Snake are unlockable? Doubt it.

Also, there shouldn't be a "Random" Button. Thats because when you turn Play thing off it randomly picks a character then.

Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
They were in Smash Bros. 64...
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 01:03:35 PM
Quote from: CrazyGamer on January 22, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
Sonic and Snake are unlockable? Doubt it.

Also, there shouldn't be a "Random" Button. Thats because when you turn Play thing off it randomly picks a character then.

Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
They were in Smash Bros. 64...
Actually Sakurai said that 3rd parties are more suitable to be unlockables.  That's been confirmed months before Sonic was confirmed.  Do you honestly believe somebody got hold of the game?  And since he stopped the video after 9 seconds it's obvious that he doesn't want people to see that it's a fake. 
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Rius on January 22, 2008, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: CrazyGamer on January 22, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
Sonic and Snake are unlockable? Doubt it.

Also, there shouldn't be a "Random" Button. Thats because when you turn Play thing off it randomly picks a character then.

Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
They were in Smash Bros. 64...
Sakurai already said that Snake and Sonic were unlockable, and only revealed them to build hype for the game. And there was, essentially, a random button in Melee, it was just invisible. Switching play modes proves to be cumbersome.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 22, 2008, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: CrazyGamer on January 22, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
Sonic and Snake are unlockable? Doubt it.

Also, there shouldn't be a "Random" Button. Thats because when you turn Play thing off it randomly picks a character then.

Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
They were in Smash Bros. 64...
Sakurai already said that Snake and Sonic were unlockable, and only revealed them to build hype for the game. And there was, essentially, a random button in Melee, it was just invisible. Switching play modes proves to be cumbersome.
But in melee that random button only existed when you had all 25 characters.  There is a random button in Brawl now.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Rius on January 22, 2008, 01:24:07 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 01:17:32 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 22, 2008, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: CrazyGamer on January 22, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
Sonic and Snake are unlockable? Doubt it.

Also, there shouldn't be a "Random" Button. Thats because when you turn Play thing off it randomly picks a character then.

Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 22, 2008, 04:39:32 AM
Captain Falcon and Ness are unlockables?
They were in Smash Bros. 64...
Sakurai already said that Snake and Sonic were unlockable, and only revealed them to build hype for the game. And there was, essentially, a random button in Melee, it was just invisible. Switching play modes proves to be cumbersome.
But in melee that random button only existed when you had all 25 characters.  There is a random button in Brawl now.
Which is much more convenient than waiting to unlock every character for one. While a random button does seem to go against Sakurai's style, looking at his other projects, maybe someone convinced him, otherwise.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on January 22, 2008, 03:32:03 PM
I'm not saying it's false, but lol..the characters just look Random.

You know in SSBM, you had Link, Young Link, and Zelda together,

You had Mario, Peach together......... it just looks...bleh.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Neerb on January 22, 2008, 04:23:36 PM
Quote from: RedSox on January 22, 2008, 06:41:20 AM
I think it's fake. Get one of our wii game cases now. Open it up, compare the things in the center of the disc that is hold it in, the one in the picture is different than any other wii game case. :O

OMG YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!!!  NONE OF MY WII CASES LOOK LIKE THAT!!!

Of course, there is the possibility that the Japanese case is different from the American case...
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Macawmoses on January 22, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
Why is it fake? The generic poses right out of the Dojo might explain it?!
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: DededeCloneChris on January 22, 2008, 04:30:18 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on January 22, 2008, 04:29:12 PM
Why is it fake? The generic poses right out of the Dojo might explain it?!
EVERYTHING IS SO CONFUSING! ????
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Daft Pink on January 22, 2008, 06:45:15 PM
It looks real! And the disc looks awesome. I hope the disc looks like that for us too.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Skye8600 on January 22, 2008, 08:06:49 PM
Shortfuse of SWF just contacted me and pointed out something very interesting. Here's what he had to say:
I started the "Japanese Forums" thread almost 3 weeks ago. It got some attention and was pretty popular. Gimpyfish grew interested in the way the SWF community was involved in this project of checking Japanese sites. He went to talk to a few friends who are major smash players in Japan. What happened later (and he announced on the SMYN podcast) is that he said he obtained some link to some great sites including what he though to be the Japanese Smashboards. It turned out it wasn't and the rest of the sites where just simple tournament sites. I didn't pay much attention to them. Gimpy did say since one of his friends would likely get the game early, since he hosts Melee tournaments. One of the tournament sites is http://ketubato.com . Interesting enough, this video surfaced: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxrQiCz4_o

What's the correlation? Well, look at the user who uploaded the video. It's queensaki. Who is queensaki? It's none other than the webmaster of ketubato.com. What am I getting at? Yes, Gimpy's friend who he said was going to have Brawl early...who hosts tournaments is the one who uploaded the Brawl video to youtube. Yes guys, it's real.

I agree very much with what he said, and it looks like this video is indeed real, using the logic explained above. I'll let you be your own judge on the matter.



......
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: HYRULESEAS on January 22, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
It could be a demo. ;D
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Skye8600 on January 22, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: HYRULESEAS on January 22, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
It could be a demo. ;D
its very possible
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Gwen Khan on January 22, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 22, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: HYRULESEAS on January 22, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
It could be a demo. ;D
its very possible

have we seen the demo roster from the whobby event? I can't remember
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Skye8600 on January 22, 2008, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 22, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 22, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
Quote from: HYRULESEAS on January 22, 2008, 08:18:11 PM
It could be a demo. ;D
its very possible

have we seen the demo roster from the whobby event? I can't remember
yes we have
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Cornwad on January 22, 2008, 08:38:57 PM
Ice Climbers art is new.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: tollhouse2006 on January 23, 2008, 04:41:49 AM
So, if it is real than why was the video only 9 seconds?  It made it look like he was hiding everything.  I hope this is a demo otherwise we are going to get random spoilers everyday and that means I have to leave.
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Oren on January 23, 2008, 11:14:08 AM
wow it looks real to me
Title: Re: Oooh... the official starting roster?
Post by: Zora Link on January 23, 2008, 11:23:36 AM
looks real...but you never can tell. :P