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Title: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: phatyo on July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Custom on July 11, 2011, 11:49:55 PM
i'm a transformers fan so i hate the movies and walked out of the second one and didn't bother with the third
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: TheDarkChief on July 12, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
i stopped watching transformers for the story after generation 1
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Super on July 12, 2011, 02:42:06 AM
lol transformers
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on July 12, 2011, 06:24:22 AM
Because the writers didn't think of the third movie yet.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Bearissoslow on July 12, 2011, 09:04:18 AM
how about you stop being a stupid intercourse  that questions michael bay movies and just enjoy it for it is


then again there's nothing to enjoy there
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on July 12, 2011, 09:17:20 AM
Quote from: Bearissoslow on July 12, 2011, 09:04:18 AM
how about you stop being a stupid intercourse  that questions michael bay movies and just enjoy it for it is


then again there's nothing to enjoy there

Hey now, it wasn't a bad movie. I mean, yeah, the story sucked and the beginning dragged-on with WAAAAAAY too much focus on Sam, but twist and the action were decent. It's a solid 3/5 movie. It was better than the second movie by far, at the very least. Well, the last 45 minutes at least...
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Tahrann on July 12, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: Hero_of_Darkness on July 12, 2011, 09:17:20 AM
Hey now, it wasn't a bad movie. I mean, yeah, the story sucked and the beginning dragged-on with WAAAAAAY too much focus on Sam, but twist and the action were decent. It's a solid 3/5 movie. It was better than the second movie by far, at the very least. Well, the last 45 minutes at least...

I wanted a bit more of an all-out war. But, meh, it was not bad.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
Quote from: phatyo on July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.

I see it more as a series of complex back-up plans; if he didn't get the All Spark in the first movie, he had the Sun Harvester as a back up, and if the Sun Harvester didn't work, then he had the Space Bridge, and of course all three failed because of Sam.

As for jeopardizing his deals, he had that covered too, since his back-ups couldn't do anything anyway unless he wanted them to. If the All Spark worked and he didn't need the Fallen's help, then he could just leave Fallen plugged into his life support chair at his little base on Saturn. And Sentinel Prime couldn't be revived without the Matrix of Leadership, which was also needed to power the Sun Harvester, so if Megatron and the Fallen's sun-eating plan worked, they would just leave the guy dead on the moon, and of course their plan working meant they had the Matrix, so the Autobots wouldn't be able to revive him either.

It's actually pretty genre savvy for Megatron to have somehow had all these plans using all-powerful plot devices in motion at the same time; it's just too bad for him that Shia Labouf is an all-powerful plot device in of himself.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Doodle on July 12, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: phatyo on July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.
[spoiler]
>there
>there
>inslave
>would of
>jeaportizing
[/spoiler]
It's a doggy dog world out there and you guys are taking it for granite.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Bearissoslow on July 12, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: Doodle on July 12, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
[spoiler]
>there
>there
>inslave
>would of
>jeaportizing
[/spoiler]
It's a doggy dog world out there and you guys are taking it for granite.

jesus christ you're screaming newfag.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on July 12, 2011, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on July 12, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
I wanted a bit more of an all-out war. But, meh, it was not bad.

Yeah, it was really weird how only a small part of the US army cared enough to try to save the world. They really could have done more with it.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Mutilator7 on July 12, 2011, 06:21:29 PM
I was surprised at the length of the third Transformers, it was extremely short, about 20 minutes.

Wait, you're telling me that other 2 and a half hours was a Transformers movie?
All i saw was a director's weird obsession with the military and a kid working out his issues with his girlfriend
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
I take it Transformers 3 wasn't so good?
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: The Seventh on July 12, 2011, 06:59:17 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
I take it Transformers 3 wasn't so good?
I personally thought it wasn't TERRIBLE, but they did drag on the early part waaaay more than they should have.
Quote from: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
I see it more as a series of complex back-up plans; if he didn't get the All Spark in the first movie, he had the Sun Harvester as a back up, and if the Sun Harvester didn't work, then he had the Space Bridge, and of course all three failed because of Sam.

As for jeopardizing his deals, he had that covered too, since his back-ups couldn't do anything anyway unless he wanted them to. If the All Spark worked and he didn't need the Fallen's help, then he could just leave Fallen plugged into his life support chair at his little base on Saturn. And Sentinel Prime couldn't be revived without the Matrix of Leadership, which was also needed to power the Sun Harvester, so if Megatron and the Fallen's sun-eating plan worked, they would just leave the guy dead on the moon, and of course their plan working meant they had the Matrix, so the Autobots wouldn't be able to revive him either.

It's actually pretty genre savvy for Megatron to have somehow had all these plans using all-powerful plot devices in motion at the same time; it's just too bad for him that Shia Labouf is an all-powerful plot device in of himself.
I never thought of it that way.  Crazy.

Though all this is coming from someone who never saw the first two movies and don't know much about their plots soooo...yeah.

Gawd I vaguely remember the old cartoons...kinda wanna watch them now for nostalgia's sake.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
I honestly did not watch any of the transformers movies yet.

Should I?
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
I honestly did not watch any of the transformers movies yet.

Should I?

YES.

In spite of the haters who are mad that an 80s toy commercial turned into a 00s car commercial isn't a thought-provoking Oscar winner, the movies are still entertaining and are, in my opinion, worth the viewing.

The first one is alright; it's got hit and miss humor and ends with a good cgi robot battle, which frankly is what makes any of the movies worth watching.

The second one is more extreme, and worse in most people's opinion; it has the two longest and coolest fight scenes in the series, but the rest of the movie is filled with obnoxious, stupid, needlessly inappropriate attempts at humor, and it has some idiotic plot holes (WHY IS THERE A DESERT BEHIND THE SMITHSONIAN???). Still, it's the action that makes it worth watching, and it delivers.

The third one is, in my opinion, easily the best. The awful characters from the second movie are gone, there are genuinely hilarious scenes, the plot is way better written, the new lead actress is more talented and provides a more likeable character, etc. The only bad thing is that it doesn't have nearly as much robot action, but the action is DOES have is completely over-the-top and worth the wait (a wait which is much more bearable than the first two).
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Ron on July 12, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
I personally thought Transformers 3 was awful. Personally, the robots with different personalities and the "Old man" persona, and all the different ones kinda creep me out a lot at this point. Maybe cuz I'm growing up.

Anyway, thought the story was stupid, and it was just the same movie over again, with alot of extra poop in it.
The only thing better was that Megan Fox's horrible acting wasn't in it.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Tahrann on July 12, 2011, 11:36:00 PM
Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
I personally thought Transformers 3 was awful. Personally, the robots with different personalities and the "Old man" persona, and all the different ones kinda creep me out a lot at this point. Maybe cuz I'm growing up.

Anyway, thought the story was stupid, and it was just the same movie over again, with alot of extra poop in it.
The only thing better was that Megan Fox's horrible acting wasn't in it.

I kinda doubt that one.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 06:35:25 AM
Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
I personally thought Transformers 3 was awful. Personally, the robots with different personalities and the "Old man" persona, and all the different ones kinda creep me out a lot at this point. Maybe cuz I'm growing up.

Anyway, thought the story was stupid, and it was just the same movie over again, with alot of extra poop in it.
The only thing better was that Megan Fox's horrible acting wasn't in it.

The robots are sentient, autonomous, and most importantly, CHARACTERS, just like they've been since Gen 1; if you can't stand them having personalities, you should never have watched anything Transformer-related ever. Also, I'll take two scenes with Q from James Bond over THE TWINS from the second movie any day; he wasn't event that obnoxious, he just showed up a couple times.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Hero_of_Darkness on July 13, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: Ron on July 12, 2011, 09:42:40 PM
I personally thought Transformers 3 was awful. Personally, the robots with different personalities and the "Old man" persona, and all the different ones kinda creep me out a lot at this point. Maybe cuz I'm growing up.

Anyway, thought the story was stupid, and it was just the same movie over again, with alot of extra poop in it.
The only thing better was that Megan Fox's horrible acting wasn't in it.

That probably has to do with the fact that they're not "robots," but rather highly intelligent alien lifeforms. Seriously, what did you expect? Have you ever watched any form of Transformers media? That's like playing a Mario game and complaining that Toad can talk.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: JrDude on July 13, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
I noted that the twins aren't in the 3rd movie, but my sis is convinced the new stereotypical robots are them now.

I heard Transformers 2 got in trouble for being racist against blacks, the main line that I think got them in trouble is the "we can't read."
So, the thought is, the 2 robots that were at the space launch, the Irish and Scottish ones (I think that's what they were, the red one was fat is all I actually remember), are indeed the twins.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on July 13, 2011, 10:43:44 AM
I noted that the twins aren't in the 3rd movie, but my sis is convinced the new stereotypical robots are them now.

I heard Transformers 2 got in trouble for being racist against blacks, the main line that I think got them in trouble is the "we can't read."
So, the thought is, the 2 robots that were at the space launch, the Irish and Scottish ones (I think that's what they were, the red one was fat is all I actually remember), are indeed the twins.

The Wreckers, who btw turn into NASCARs, have all of ten lines in the movie, none of which are important, and they don't even appear for the first hour and a half of the movie.

They're not even 1/10 of what the Twins were; they just happen to have accents, which technically all things capable of speaking have.

If anyone honestly complained about the Wreckers, they either didn't see the movie or were purposely looking for trouble, because there's nothing that even closely resembles the 2-hour abomination that was the Twins.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Custom on July 13, 2011, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Bearissoslow on July 12, 2011, 04:20:22 PM
jesus christ you're screaming newfag.

what the intercourse
doodle's been here longer than you negro
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Ravioli on July 13, 2011, 08:31:27 PM
Fuck those stupid movies and that stupid franchise.
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
I honestly did not watch any of the transformers movies yet.

Should I?
No.

Neerb would get hard from watching paint dry.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ravioli on July 13, 2011, 08:31:27 PM
Fuck those stupid movies and that stupid franchise.No.

Neerb would get hard from watching paint dry.

Are you implying that the movies are boring? I could understand someone hating the writing or acting or "humor" or focus on humans, but I don't know if I've ever heard someone compare them to watching paint dry.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 13, 2011, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Are you implying that the movies are boring? I could understand someone hating the writing or acting or "humor" or focus on humans, but I don't know if I've ever heard someone compare them to watching paint dry.
Making sure the paint all dries is a better use of your time.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Ravioli on July 13, 2011, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 08:34:01 PM
Are you implying that the movies are boring? I could understand someone hating the writing or acting or "humor" or focus on humans, but I don't know if I've ever heard someone compare them to watching paint dry.
Any entertainment value is negligible in the first movie and void in the other two.
Quote from: Kayo on July 13, 2011, 08:37:43 PM
Making sure the paint all dries is a better use of your time.
Get the intercourse  out of my head.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Custom on July 13, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
I honestly did not watch any of the transformers movies yet.

Should I?

aslo no
neerb is probably like 11 years old and is like EXPLOSIONS HOLY SHIT
you're better off watching pearl harbor
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: JrDude on July 14, 2011, 02:13:43 AM
Quote from: Neerb on July 13, 2011, 12:10:06 PM
The Wreckers, who btw turn into NASCARs, have all of ten lines in the movie, none of which are important, and they don't even appear for the first hour and a half of the movie.

They're not even 1/10 of what the Twins were; they just happen to have accents, which technically all things capable of speaking have.

If anyone honestly complained about the Wreckers, they either didn't see the movie or were purposely looking for trouble, because there's nothing that even closely resembles the 2-hour abomination that was the Twins.
Well, they never got killed and were never useful, so it could be understandable that they were put there to stay out of trouble or something. They can also scan different cars to become different cars. They're still Red & Green, so I assume that they are trying to signal that these are them now. Does Red & Green automatically mean it's them? No, but Red & Green together, pretty much yes. If they weren't supposed to be the same guys, they would probably use new colors, as there are many they could have used, rather than the same exact 2.
If some of that is kinda "wut," blame my sleepiness.

If they ever make a 4th, I think they should use their scanning more often for a few bots, rather than "SCAN CAR, SAME4EVAR!!"
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Tahrann on July 14, 2011, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on July 14, 2011, 02:13:43 AM
Well, they never got killed and were never useful, so it could be understandable that they were put there to stay out of trouble or something. They can also scan different cars to become different cars. They're still Red & Green, so I assume that they are trying to signal that these are them now. Does Red & Green automatically mean it's them? No, but Red & Green together, pretty much yes. If they weren't supposed to be the same guys, they would probably use new colors, as there are many they could have used, rather than the same exact 2.
If some of that is kinda "wut," blame my sleepiness.

If they ever make a 4th, I think they should use their scanning more often for a few bots, rather than "SCAN CAR, SAME4EVAR!!"

Wtb Predicons.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 14, 2011, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: Custom on July 13, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
aslo no
neerb is probably like 11 years old and is like EXPLOSIONS HOLY SHIT
you're better off watching pearl harbor

Alright, I won't waste any time torrenting these things then~
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: phatyo on July 22, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
You guys all have some sort of hate stick stuck up your asses or something? Did I intercourse ing ask for your opinion on the movie? No just i though there was a big hole in the plot but Neerb cleared that up. Thankyou very much.
You guys are not accepted in this world for a reason. Stop being so judgmental and take that stick out your ass. Its a movie about robots who turn into cars with action scenes. Not a master piece that will need to be viewed in museums all over the world. I swear it either has to be 100% good to you guys or its garbage.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Doodle on July 22, 2011, 10:22:53 AM
Quote from: phatyo on July 22, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
You guys all have some sort of hate stick stuck up your asses or something? Did I intercourse ing ask for your opinion on the movie? No just i though there was a big hole in the plot but Neerb cleared that up. Thankyou very much.
You guys are not accepted in this world for a reason. Stop being so judgmental and take that stick out your ass. Its a movie about robots who turn into cars with action scenes. Not a master piece that will need to be viewed in museums all over the world. I swear it either has to be 100% good to you guys or its garbage.
"Waaaah! How dare people discuss things in my thread! This is MY thread! Only talk about what I want you to talk about! Raaaaah!"
Seems like you have a bigger stick up your ass. :U
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 11:04:12 AM
TRANSFORMERS
ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Doodle on July 22, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 11:04:12 AM
TRANSFORMERS
ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
heard it in my head adsdfghgfj
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: Doodle on July 22, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
heard it in my head adsdfghgfj
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110421045047/halofanon/images/a/a2/Meme_-_JustAsPlanned.jpg)
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: The Seventh on July 22, 2011, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Doodle on July 22, 2011, 10:22:53 AM
"Waaaah! How dare people discuss things in my thread! This is MY thread! Only talk about what I want you to talk about! Raaaaah!"
Seems like you have a bigger stick up your ass. :U
Hahaha, Phatyo having a stick up his ass about something...now that's something!
Quote from: Doodle on July 22, 2011, 11:29:09 AM
heard it in my head adsdfghgfj
hnnnngh same here
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 22, 2011, 10:14:51 PM
HEY
NO TALKING ABOUT ANAL PENETRATION IN A THREAD ABOUT TRANSFORMERS
WHINEWHINEWHINE
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Doodle on July 23, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
NO KAYO THIS ISN'T A THREAD ABOUT TRANSFORMERS
IT'S A THREAD ABOUT PLOT HOLES IN TRANSFORMERS WAAAAH
TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES DAMMIT
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 23, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
Quote from: Doodle on July 23, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
NO KAYO THIS ISN'T A THREAD ABOUT TRANSFORMERS
IT'S A THREAD ABOUT PLOT HOLES IN TRANSFORMERS WAAAAH
TALK ABOUT THE PLOT HOLES DAMMIT
POT HOLES?
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Neerb on July 23, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Kayo on July 23, 2011, 07:05:25 PM
POT HOLES?

OF COURSE, THE NATURAL PREDATORS OF SENTIENT CARS.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 23, 2011, 07:13:47 PM
Quote from: Neerb on July 23, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
OF COURSE, THE NATURAL PREDATORS OF SENTIENT CARS.
POT HOLE PANIC.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Doodle on July 24, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
POT HOLES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANSFORMERS ARGH YOU PEOPLE
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 24, 2011, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: Doodle on July 24, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
POT HOLES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANSFORMERS ARGH YOU PEOPLE
THERE WAS A CITY IN TRANSFORMERS
CITIES HAVE POT HOLES
OH YES THEY DO
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Turok on July 24, 2011, 09:56:22 PM
WHY ARE WE YELLING?

AND HOLY SHIT GUYS, HOLES FULL OF POT.
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Kayo on July 24, 2011, 11:27:54 PM
Quote from: Turok on July 24, 2011, 09:56:22 PM
WHY ARE WE YELLING?

AND HOLY SHIT GUYS, HOLES FULL OF POT.
DON'T TELL ANYONE OH MY GOD
Title: Re: Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?
Post by: Ravioli on July 25, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: phatyo on July 22, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
whining
lol as if the Transformers films require much critical analysis.
QuoteIts a movie about robots who turn into cars with action scenes. Not a master piece that will need to be viewed in museums all over the world.
No poop?