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Started by Jono2, January 17, 2009, 04:33:54 PM

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JrDude

Holy poop, after reading many of these posts, Metroid sounds like an unorganized series, 1 taking place at some time, then some taking place before that, and a bunch of other confusing poop.
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Jono2

Quote from: JrDude on January 28, 2009, 05:49:03 PM
Holy poop, after reading many of these posts, Metroid sounds like an unorganized series, 1 taking place at some time, then some taking place before that, and a bunch of other confusing poop.

It's really not that complicated.

The timeline is

Metroid -> Metroid Prime -> Hunters -> Echoes -> Corruption -> Return of Samus -> Super -> Fusion

Zero Mission belongs everywhere after Metroid, as it has an unspecified time and it describes the story of Metroid.

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Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
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...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

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JrDude

#47
So even though MP3 is the newest, it's still before Hunters? (timelinewise)
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Commander Awesome

Quote from: JrDude on January 28, 2009, 06:31:02 PM
So even though MP3 is the newest, it's still before Hunters? (timelinewise)
The series has been suffering from Zelda-like symptoms, where it started to go back, sideways, just anywhere but forward.

As I  stated before, the truly significant games are Metroid/Zero Mission, Return of Samus, Super Metroid, and Fusion. The Prime series is an expansion for the hell of it more than anything.

Jono2

Quote from: JrDude on January 28, 2009, 06:31:02 PM
So even though MP3 is the newest, it's still before Hunters? (timelinewise)

MP3 is after hunters...

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

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JrDude

Quote from: Jono2 on January 28, 2009, 06:53:08 PM
Quote from: JrDude on January 28, 2009, 06:31:02 PM
So even though MP3 is the newest, it's still before Hunters? (timelinewise)

MP3 is after hunters...
But... you said... ah intercourse  it, I'm not a Metroid fanatic so I don't care that much.
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Beatnik

Quote from: Jono2 on January 27, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: Beatnik on January 27, 2009, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 17, 2009, 05:28:12 PM
well, Metroid Prime ignored Fusion's existance.
What are you talking about? Metroid Prime takes place before Fusion, to aknowledge Fusion's existance wouldn't make sense.

I have no idea what I was thinking when I wrote that, but everything after that is coherent thoughts.

trust me. -_-
Everything else you wrote was great, but that just jumped out at me.
"I like cigarettes, Mrs. Taggart. I like to think of fire held in a man's hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind-and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression..."

The Seventh

Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 27, 2009, 11:16:38 PM
I'm all for more 2D Metroid, but no more intercourse ing Speed Booster. Ever.
What, did that ANNOY you?  It annoyed me, but, then again, when you get past the challenge, it feels nice and rewarding.
meh

GreatGonzales106

Quote from: Jono2 on January 28, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: JrDude on January 28, 2009, 05:49:03 PM
Holy poop, after reading many of these posts, Metroid sounds like an unorganized series, 1 taking place at some time, then some taking place before that, and a bunch of other confusing poop.

It's really not that complicated.

The timeline is

Metroid -> Metroid Prime (1) -> Hunters -> (MP2) Echoes -> (MP3) Corruption -> Return of Samus -> Super -> Fusion

Zero Mission belongs everywhere after Metroid, as it has an unspecified time and it describes the story of Metroid.
For JrDude ^^^

Tahrann

How about sub stories before M3 that has the adventures of the other bounty hunters from M3.
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Jono2

Quote from: Tahrann on February 04, 2009, 01:14:23 PM
How about sub stories before M3 that has the adventures of the other bounty hunters from M3.

you mean hunters?  M3 is super metroid, M4 is Metroid Fusion.

I think that would be kinda cool, but I would prefer another (quality) 2D metroid first.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

SteamID: Lazylen

X-3

I'm hoping that Metroid doesn't go into another hibernation anytime soon. I think it's a great series.

It's interesting to note that they are porting Metroid Prime 1+2 to the Wii. A test to see if Metroid still sells, or something? Or just another way to make money? Probably the second, but whatever.

Zero

I actually just got Prime 3 and I'm pretty satisfied so far. I honestly don't see what all the whining is about when it comes to this game.

Jono2

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Quote from: Zero on February 13, 2009, 09:29:44 PM
I actually just got Prime 3 and I'm pretty satisfied so far. I honestly don't see what all the whining is about when it comes to this game.

Oh, it's a good game, but it's not a metroid game in the classical sense.

Metroid (original) is free-roam.  You get lost, you die.  that's it.
Metroid 2 (Return of Samus) is less free-roam, but in a good way.  Harder to get lost, but still free-roam.
Metroid 3 (Super Metroid) is the epitome of free-roam.  You can go wherever you want, but the game is programmed well enough that as long as you know what you're doing, there will almost never be a situation that you can't get yourself out of.
Metroid Prime - The first 3D entry.  Less free roam due to the restrictions of 3D, but as good as it gets for 3D.
Metroid Fusion - Completely linear, not in the metroid spirit at all.  The game tells you where to go, and any attempt at going somewhere else results in failure.
Metroid Zero Mission - Free-roam, but not in a good sense.  Sequence-Breaking is supposed to be about breaking the sequence, not an alternate path, which is what MZM did.  Although fun, it is not true free-roam in the metroid sense.
Metroid Prime Hunters - Single player sucked.  Don't even bother.
Metroid Prime 2 - The second real 3D entry.  Less free roam than Metroid Prime.  Are restricted to only going to certain areas for most of the game, limiting light/dark portals system, dark world discourages exploration by punishing you for doing so (damage when outside of the light).
Metroid Prime 3 - The third real 3D entry.  No free roam, always told where you have to go, very action-based.  Although a good game in itself, a shadow of the peak of the series, Super metroid.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

SteamID: Lazylen

X-3

Jono hit the nail on the head, in my opinion.

MP3 is a good game, but it ends up feeling very different from the normal Metroid feeling. There's a lot of interaction with NPCs compared to previous games, and the Aurora Units help you through a lot of the game. I like when developers make some changes to gameplay(hence why I like Majora), but in this case I preferred the loneliness of previous Metroids.

I replayed Fusion recently, and disliked it. The computer tells you basically where to go for most of the game. I'm working through a Super Metroid file, and I'm loving it. There's basically no direction, aside from maps you can get. You can spend a long time just running around, searching for stuff you couldn't get before.